Here is a passionate and accurate conversation between Dr Shoemaker and myself.

Dr Shoemaker and myself are both knowledgeable, ethical, and motivated. We are completely committed at any expense to fulfill our duties: study the science, tell the truth, relieve suffering, and protect the innocent. I hope you find knowledge, passion, and even some laughter in this completely frank conversation between us, on the tail end of Dr Shoemaker’s ten day vigil in Toronto. 33 minutes.